• Dear Kathie Lee and Hoda (but Mostly Kathie Lee) – Bullying is NOT ok!

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    I’m taking off my food blogger hat for a moment and putting on my defender of humanity hat! 

    This post was written by Leslie Erin of Crunchy Betty, in response to Kathy Lee and Hoda regarding the “No Poo” post on LittleOwlCrunchyMomma’s “no poo” by Jacquelyn Byers. In support of our dear blogging friend Jacquelyn many bloggers are showing our support by posting this article (with permission).

    You can view their video here at 6:30.

    A note from Sarah:

    Bullying is never ok! I am saddened by recent events in my crunchy circle of friends that targeted a blogger friend of mine and disrespected her very valid choice to care for her hair without chemicals.

    I have the privilege of working with Jacquelyn Byers  from LittleOwlCrunchyMomma and consider her a friend. If you scroll over my personal Facebook friends list, you will find her there. You’ll find her delicious recipes and awesome DIY projects throughout my site in roundups and menu plans. So when mainstream media got a hold of a post she wrote about why she stopped shampooing her hair and how she hasn’t used shampoo in five years and had a field day with it, we all banded together in support of our friend.

    Why? Because bullying is not ok! The way the media has put Jacquelyn in a modern day stockade and is repeatedly hurling sticks and stones at her is appalling. I cannot believe the meanness, filth and judgement coming out of the mouths of people who have the ear of the country! 

    It is a sad day when the news covers whether or not a mom washes her hair or not instead of covering the real issues like human trafficking, poverty and hunger. 

    It’s easy to sit back and say or right judgmental things without thinking about those who are listening. How is telling someone they are filthy and disgusting ok? It’s not! What kind of roll models are these people? Where is the kindness? Where is the open-mindedness that something different or alternative doesn’t mean horrible?

    Please pass this on in support of informed, crunchy mamas everywhere! Much love, my friends!

    Jacquelyn Byers from LittleOwlCrunchyMama

    used with permission

    Dear Kathie Lee and Hoda (but mostly Kathie Lee),

    Shhh.

    Just … shh.

    For a minute. Let me talk. Let someone else talk. Please.

    Shhh.

    Yesterday, with the exceptional display of journalistic prowess only the two of you can pull off, you publicly shamed a woman. You know, just a little good-natured name calling of a commoner, in between Kathie Lee’s cringe-worthy lyric-forgetting and the best hair evah (EVAH) popular girls circle jerk. No harm, no foul, right?

    I get it, girlfriends. I really do get it. You live in a world where you’re plied with products and serums and perfumes and creams made of extracts of baby albino tiger tears mixed with space-aged polymers coated in 200 karat gold. You don’t really know what’s going on *out here* unless your producers shove a bottle of wine and a paper covered in words in front of your face and say, “Don’t think. Just talk.”

    I know there’s an in-touch part of you somewhere, it just happens to focus on things like the latest stiletto-wedge-ballet-pump from Jimmy Choo or what Lady Gaga ate for breakfast yesterday morning (extracts of baby albino tiger tears, no doubt).

    But out here, ladies, something else is going on. And it’s something your producers won’t hand you a script for (something that would never please the overlord advertisers).

    So even though you’re not in touch with it, it does exist. And the beautiful women you made fun of yesterday is a part of it. You can call it “crunchy” (cue Kathie Lee eye roll) or natural or alternative or big bang boopsie. I don’t care. Call it whatever you want, but to look down on it any longer doesn’t fly.

    You see, there are thousands of women who have learned one very important thing in the last few years:

    We’ve been lied to. We’ve been bamboozled. We’ve been hoodwinked. We’ve been hypnotized by a billion synthetic fragrances slowly stripping us, from the day we’re born, of every shred of the true *natural* humanity we’re a part of.

    And because hundreds of women as brave as Jaquelyn Byers of LittleOwlCrunchyMama have spoken out about their no ‘poo lifestyle, we know something you don’t:

    Not washing your hair with shampoo doesn’t make you stink. Oh, maybe the first few days are rough, and then any whiff of off-putting smell is gone. It’s gone, and you know why? Because human bodies are designed to work in concert with nature, not battle with it.

    We’ve also learned that the stink you cop to having after not washing your hair, Kathie Lee, has more to do with the things that you put IN your body than the things that you put ON your body. A clean diet, more often than not, equals a cleaner smell. And that cleaner smell is quite easy to remove (and be free of), even if you only wash with water.

    You can still bathe regularly, Kathie Lee, so you don’t have to worry about smelling like the people “back in the day before shampoo” who only bathed once every few weeks, at most. You can still enjoy other comforts of modern day life. Like, you know, razors and toothbrushes and those little family stick figures you put on your car’s back window. Except not the last part. Please, not those.

    I don’t know why I expect more of you, but I do. I expect women in the media to be conscientious about the way they talk about new ideas and, even more so, the way they talk about people. About other women. And, for heaven’s sake, about other women and their relationship with their children.

    The disrespect you showed Jacquelyn, simply because she does something you’re not brave enough to learn about, much less try, was nothing short of schoolyard bullying.

    I have a friend, you know, who has two girls: ages 5 and 7. And when she caught her children making fun of another kid for having curly hair, do you know what she did? She curled their hair. For a week straight, the girls had curly hair, just so they understood what another person was feeling.

    So I know that one of you – I’m guessing Hoda, because she seems to be the bravest of the gang – is going to swallow your pill and do the right thing now. If a 5-year-old and 7-year-old can do it, you can muster up the emotionally responsible fortitude to do it, too.

    Don’t wash your hair.

    For six weeks.

    Do not wash your hair with shampoo. Heck, you could even go the no ‘poo with baking soda and apple cider vinegar route. But either way, no shampoo. For six weeks.

    And then come back and talk to us about how awful it is. Then you can talk from an experienced point of view. Then, perhaps, you won’t sit up there on your ultra loud thrones and set the tone for other people to feel like it’s okay to be mean. And many of your viewers were mean. Nasty. Bleh.

    Until then, it would be ever so kind if one of you would have a sit down with your producers and schedule a few interviews with women who don’t use shampoo. Get them in your studio. Right next to you. In your face.

    So you can smell them. And eat crow.

    (I hear it’s delicious this time of year.)

    And goodness knows I’m not saying it will work for you. It may not! I mean, let’s be honest, it won’t, because it takes exquisitely detailed spritzing and teasing and coiffing to get you camera ready all the time. But what’s six weeks going to hurt, right? Time flies when you’re a celebrity.

    Try it. It’s not like you’ll lose your job – unlike the way you do when you anger the masses by being heartless and snarky.

    The worst that can happen is that you’ll stink. The best that can happen is that you’ll gain our respect – and a naturally beautiful head of hair in the process.

    ~Leslie – Crunchy Betty 

    In Closing:

    How do we expect the next generation to be conscientious human beings if we aren’t? Let’s be noble in these little things so that when the big things come our way, we can defend them too! Little eyes are watching. Little ears are listening!

    Peace, Love, and Blessings,

    ~Sarah

    UPDATE: Please note: The open letter was written by Leslie of Crunchy Betty in defense of Jacquelyn Byers and reposted with permission. You can read my opinions in the intro and closing of the post. Yes, Leslie’s wording is strong and is rubbing some of you the wrong way. Maybe she could have chosen different wording but the point is made. She is calling them out for what they did. Something has to change in the media. They don’t have the right to tear down someone for their choices and humiliate them in front of the world. At least have the decency to say what they said to her face instead of as a generalization. 

     

    Leave a comment, but if you bash me I won’t approve it:)

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    Sarah is a crunchy, Eco-chic wife, homeschooling mama to four lively children, and real food blogger at Real Food Outlaws. She is also an herbalist and owns 90210 Organics, an Eco-boutique and Apothecary. She's a Certified Health Coach, Natural Living Consultant and Essential Oil Connoisseur. You can often find her barefoot in the garden (or kitchen), or rummaging through a refrigerator (not necessarily her own).

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    88 Responses to Dear Kathie Lee and Hoda (but Mostly Kathie Lee) – Bullying is NOT ok!

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    2. L.Carey
      January 17, 2014 at 1:07 pm

      Kudos to you for this post! I’m sharing it everywhere, in the hopes someone might learn something! Thanks for doing such a good job. In the past I’ve been a casual reader – but consider me a fan, now and for always. Keep posting the truth!

    3. Crystal Lewis
      January 17, 2014 at 1:19 pm

      Exquisitely stated… I wish they would not wash their hair for 6 weeks, just to see the benefits.

    4. liz
      January 17, 2014 at 1:21 pm

      I agree 1000%!! I haven’t used shampoo in 78 days, and my hair has changed entirely. Not to mention, it’s healthier, and I feel healthier. Don’t get me wrong, I spent years on the poor side of using whatever shampoo I could get my hands on, and years using sulfate and paraben free shampoos, expensive shampoos, and dry shampoos. This is now my lifestyle. I take a shower every day, and wash my hair every 4 or 5 days with baking soda and water. I’ve had people call me dirty and say that it was very unhygienic, and I told them that I didn’t want to hear anything unless they were willing to try it as well! Thank you so much for standing up for the people being bullied! Regardless of what it’s over, it shouldn’t be happening.

      • Yamilet Trujillo
        February 1, 2014 at 9:57 pm

        I need some help with this: I hear stylists and other internet articles say that going a week without washing actually helps your natural oils sink down to the ends of your hair. However my scalp gets itchy, oily, flaky, and overall nasty when I don’t wash it for a week. And then even after I do give it a good wash with “nourishing shampoo/hydrating conditioner” it’s still flaky… It’s also somewhat too dry in my opinion, and maybe smells better. So I would wonder if I could pull off the 6-week-no-poo detox and keep it from becoming flaky and smelly (even after an hour-long gym workout). I’m not quite ready to change my diet to avoid the bodily smell…

    5. January 17, 2014 at 1:22 pm

      LOVE this blog. I will be sharing it on their website, and I was considering sharing it on http://www.aliciainasmalltown.com if that is okay. I absolutely cannot stand bullying and I HATE that it happened like that. I googled and watched the show after reading this, and that was ridiculous!

      • January 17, 2014 at 1:29 pm

        Thank you Alicia! Please do share! I think it is awesome to see so many people standing up for something as small as this! It’s practice for when we have bigger things to stand up for!

    6. Kari J
      January 17, 2014 at 1:23 pm

      I haven’t used shampoo in a year. I work as a nurse, no one has found me smelly yet. I think this mom is awesome, thanks for sticking up for her.

    7. Susy
      January 17, 2014 at 1:24 pm

      Thank you very much for your reply! Every day I feel more and more disconnected from our friends who live keeping up with the Jones’ – it’s nice to hear from someone else on the same track!

    8. Colette
      January 17, 2014 at 1:39 pm

      (((((Applauding))))) You said exactly what I wanted to say, I just couldn’t get the words out.

    9. January 17, 2014 at 1:43 pm

      I don’t use shampoo OR antiperspirants! The only comments I ever get are from people commenting me, particularly the people who trim my hair, about how strong and shiny my hair is! I have yet to ever hear a negative word about my shampoo free lifestyle. These women need to get a grip! You said it perfectly, bullying won’t be tolerated.

    10. Dawn
      January 17, 2014 at 1:58 pm

      I freaking love your reply. Shame on them! You and other bloggers like LittleOwlCrunchyMommy have inspired me and my family to change our lives and live as naturally as possible. It’s been such an awakening and we thank you.

    11. January 17, 2014 at 1:58 pm

      Awesome post! What IS it with the culture of bullying we’re living in now? Where did this come from, and how can we curl ALL their hair to make it stop? No one — NO one — in my circle of friends and colleagues can tell when I’m using baking soda/acv and when I’m using fancy shampoo….and when I’m just giving it all a good rinse! It feels better to just let it go, and it doesn’t smell in any way but clean. I would say “stop watching these talking heads and bubble-headed morning bimbos” but many of us already have. Let Idiot Nation poison itself and leave us in peace.

      • January 17, 2014 at 2:03 pm

        Absolutely, whole-heartedly agree!!!

      • Karla
        January 17, 2014 at 3:17 pm

        I’m just going to point out that in your reply you just lowered yourself and your argument when you called them bubble headed morning bimbos. If you want bullying to stop you should start with yourself.

        • January 17, 2014 at 3:49 pm

          I didn’t write the letter. You must have missed that part. If you are going to start bashing me now then maybe take a look at YOURself:)

          • Ricardo
            January 17, 2014 at 7:23 pm

            One would assume that comment was directed at Maggie, the person who made the comment in question

            • January 24, 2014 at 8:04 pm

              Ah, yes. I can see that now. When moderating comments I don’t see how they are structured. :)

    12. January 17, 2014 at 2:12 pm

      First read about the interview and now this wonderfully written response from a page I follow on Facebook – Attainable Sustainable. Thank you for standing up and saying your piece without cursing or other such nonsense. Sharing! ~Erika from MishMashedMe

    13. christina
      January 17, 2014 at 2:20 pm

      i know that its good to not wash your hair with shampoo because it strips your hair of its natural oils. but I don’t think their intention was to bully her on not washing her hair but the fact is that our society links washing your hair to being clean. I think it was just their (or Kathy Lee’s) opinion that to not wash your hair would mean that it would stick. I dont think they know that shes does everything organic and eats the right things. There are things out that that are organic that you could wash your hair with that dont have chemicals in them as well that dont strip your natural oils but keep your hair looking healthy and clean by “society’s standards” i guess you could say. I understand you point of view but at the same time just because someone doesnt agree with her lifestyle and to them it may seem dirty or whatever you would want to call it doesnt means they are a bully it just means they think differently. Im sure they didnt go hunting for the girl who doesnt wash her hair with shampoo, the station did and their opinion was clearly not for it and theres nothing wrong with that. This is why we live in a country where everyone CAN have their own opinion and do what they want. Not everyone goes for the organic living and some people do. At the end of the day who really cares what anyone says if you think its the right thing for you to not wash your hair with chemicals then thats fine but dont bash someone for not thinking the same way you do.

      • January 17, 2014 at 2:45 pm

        Did you watch the clip? They were horrible to her.

      • liz
        January 17, 2014 at 3:01 pm

        This blog didn’t bash anyone, hence the standing up for bullying. She politely stated what she thinks and arranged an experience. Now, read what you just wrote.. Don’t bash someone for not thinking the way you do. So, the fact that kathi lee went out of her way on public national television to bash someone for something she doesn’t believe in, is okay? You just defied your own logic.

      • Jada
        January 20, 2014 at 1:08 pm

        You have to be kidding. These horrible women were the very definition of bullies. By your token, that everyone can make their own decisions on what is best for themselves, these obnoxious people had no right to publically criticise her in the first place! You said ‘don’t bash someone for not thinking the same way you do’, but pay attention! That is EXACTLY what Kathy Lee and Hoda did!

    14. Vicki Reth
      January 17, 2014 at 2:23 pm

      Which is why I never watch this kind of show. I always consider the source.
      Kudo’s for standing up and speaking out!

      • Rebecca
        January 17, 2014 at 8:38 pm

        100% with you here. Happily unshampooing for over a year! I get my info from gardening sites. More than enough to keep my world happy and entertained.

    15. caroline Witte
      January 17, 2014 at 2:26 pm

      I agree do not judge someone until you have walked a day in their shoes. I am proud of the way I raised my children they never bullied anyone they stood up for the kids being bullied and I know this because people have told me this personally. I am the mom of five boys who are now grown men from 19 to 30. I was a young mom at 18 and decided to stay home and raise them and a lot of women I knew who were supposedly friends made me feel like less of a person because I did not have a career but I did the best one ever I was a MOM. So screw anyone who puts you down karma is a B they will get it in the end.

    16. Lyn
      January 17, 2014 at 2:31 pm

      I agree that their behavior was inappropriate and bullying.

      However, the tone of your response seems a little harsh, on the verge of bullying. I know you are defending a friend against the mass media power that Kathie Lee and Hoda bring. And she deserves your defense and indignation.

      You make assumptions (like about what their products contain and how they get their information and form their opinions). But this is exactly what you accuse them of doing (assuming your friend smells and does not use other personal care products).

      You kind of taunt them (if a 5 and 7 year old can do it, so can you), which is also bullying technique.

      I do understand your outrage and desire to speak out on your friend’s behalf.

      This post is all over Facebook right now. You have a pretty wide audience. I think your points could be made better without sinking to the tactics you profess to find so awful.

      • January 17, 2014 at 2:44 pm

        Hi Lyn, The open letter is a repost (with permission) from Leslie of Crunchy Betty (as stated in the post). The letter is strongly worded and is meant to call out the bullying for what it is. When dealing with the media, sometimes you have to word things strongly or they don’t get it. How do you defend someone? With nicey-nice or by being outraged at such bad behavior? I am a firm believer in “a soft answer turns away wrath” but in this instance when a story goes viral and every person reporting it is saying the same horrible things, someone has to stand up and speak up.

      • Karla
        January 17, 2014 at 3:23 pm

        I am going to have to agree with Lyn. I read the blog and thought wow this sounds like bullying right back. It’s one thing to stand up and defend someone it’s another to go name calling and bashing in your response. So sad!

        • January 17, 2014 at 3:48 pm

          You’re entitled to your opinion and perception:)

        • January 17, 2014 at 6:14 pm

          Hi, Karla. First of all, please point me to a place in which I called someone a name. If I called someone a name, I would like to be aware of it and rectify the issue. Did I criticize the job they do and the way they do it? Yep. But I don’t recall calling anyone a name. Of course, everyone perceives things differently, so what you see may not be what I intended (or even what I said).

          Secondly, while I absolutely don’t, even a little bit, disagree with the assessment that I was “fighting fire with fire” (in other words, responding to them initially in the same tone in which they behaved), I was actually fully cognizant that I was doing that. The intention was that, at the beginning of the note, to mirror the tone of the show to “reflect back” what they had presented – and then, as the letter went on, to present a solution to both the original conflict as well as the mirrored conflict. I presented a solution to the situation that would give everyone a little taste of “walking in each other’s shoes,” as it were.

          Unfortunately, a kind and quiet reply, when you’re dealing with the media, moves no pebbles, much less mountains.

          And then, of course, there’s the part of me that’s, well, you know … human. The part of me that, when I see a Goliath ruthlessly gutting a David on a national platform, wants to level the playing field for all of us. Was I a little snarky? Yes, and on purpose (if you knew me, you’d know that I’m probably the least “mean” person in the world). But, y’know, you can’t make waves without ruffling a little feathers (or mix metaphors without barking up the wrong tree).

          We’re not really battling “people” here, as it were, but perceptions and behavior (two totally different things). At the end of the day, I would happily sit down with both of those ladies over a cup of coffee and be thoroughly delighted to be in their company. Whether or not they were stinky (either by not bathing or by using an abundance of synthetically fragranced products).

          In the end, I invite anyone who disagrees with the tone I decided would be the most powerful in this particular situation to write their own letter in their own voice to Kathie Lee and Hoda. It takes all perspectives to smash a wall that’s been built by misinformation.

          • Patty
            January 17, 2014 at 7:59 pm

            Bravo!!!!

      • Mark Calvin
        January 24, 2014 at 11:04 am

        Lyn, are you serious??? There was nothing harsh in that letter! People are WAY too sensitive anymore! I know all about bullying, since my little sister has Downs Syndrome, and I was the protector of her and everyone in her class.

        If you thought that this letter was bullying, I wonder what kind of a fishbowl you live in. I thought it was a nice and extremely well written letter showing two naive, clueless, unintelligent women the folly of their ways. As well as the dangers of being opinionated without having the experience or gray matter to back it up.

        Now perhaps I am too far on the other side of the spectrum from you Lyn. Having lived in Fallujah, Sadr City, and Basra (that’s Iraq in case you didn’t know, and no I’m not being condescending, most Americans don’t seem to remember much about the Iraqi war; Thanks to a press corp who wouldn’t know the truth if it ripped out their perfectly groomed “and washed” hair).

        The kind of bullying I saw there usually ended up with people who were not offended, but dead, or terrified and mourning those who had been murdered by the “bullies.”

        If I had written a rebuttal you probably would have passed out, and then accused me of being a horrible person Lyn.

        So good job Leslie! In my humble opinion you were very nice and tactful! But just realize you addressed two women who have a combined IQ of 73, so they won’t understand anything you wrote. But good effort all the same!

    17. January 17, 2014 at 3:13 pm

      Awesome, just totally awesome!

    18. Peggy
      January 17, 2014 at 3:22 pm

      I appreciate so much of what you say, but this paragraph bothered me:
      “You live in a world where you’re plied with products and serums and perfumes and creams made of extracts of baby albino tiger tears mixed with space-aged polymers coated in 200 karat gold. You don’t really know what’s going on *out here* unless your producers shove a bottle of wine and a paper covered in words in front of your face and say, “Don’t think. Just talk”.”

      I think when you write a statement asking someone not to bully or put someone down for doing some that they don’t understand, you might want to consider not putting them down- even if what you’re saying is relatively true. Just a thought.
      But really, I like that we stick up for each other :-)

      • January 17, 2014 at 5:48 pm

        SHE didn’t write the letter response….PLEASE reread all the information that was given.

    19. Bethany
      January 17, 2014 at 4:02 pm

      well said! I haven’t used conditioner in years opting for the vinegar route myself and guess what my hair is shiner then it has ever been. Bravo for sticking up for someone if more people did that think of the changes in the world! Again kudos!@

    20. Bethany
      January 17, 2014 at 4:02 pm

      I am going to share this I hope I have your permission!

    21. January 17, 2014 at 4:18 pm

      I, too, stopped using shampoo for a year. My hair is so much healthier and shiny!!! God did not make our bodies to “require” soap. Otherwise he would have us all come out of our mothers with a bar of soap attached to us. I just use hot water for daily showers and once every 2 weeks I do a deep cleanse with baking soda. I will never use shampoo again and not once have I smelled bad. Thank you for this! I have also been “bullied” for my decision, but only by people that have dry, dull, over-processed hair! LOL I just throw my gorgeous locks over my shoulder and walk away with a smile!!!

    22. January 17, 2014 at 4:20 pm

      As an ex-hairdresser and a woman with very curly ( and thus very dry ) hair, let me tell you that “shampooing” your hair is not the same as having dirty hair. Most commercial shampoos are very drying and I go for months without using shampoo. I do, however rinse my hair weekly and sometimes I add products to control frizz or make my hair shiny like it was when I was younger. What do we really care about Hoda and Cathy Lee? Neither of these women has done anything that resembles worth to humanity or the industry they serve. I remember the hairstylist on What not to Wear once said that he never shampooed his hair (curly again). Let’s give each other a break in what is a very hard life for every woman. Do what you like with your hair.

    23. January 17, 2014 at 4:42 pm

      Beautifully said…. Proud of all of you!!! I have MCS/Chemical Damage. I have been an outcast for years. I use Dr. Bronners once in a while on my hair, and a vinegar rinse.

    24. January 17, 2014 at 5:30 pm

      I don’t think a word of her letter should be changed. At all! How dare they talk about someone like that and not have the decency (I sometimes forget I’m talking about celebs) to have her on the show to prove them wrong. Maybe that’s the problem, they were afraid she would prove them wrong. I am one that can admit that I am too afraid to try it, but hey, if it works for her, more power to her. Baking soda and apple cider vinegar are some of the best things to use on your hair if not using chemical laden shampoos. When I want to lighten my hair, what do I reach for? Apple cider vinegar. What do they think people used before all this hullabaloo of chemical laden products were invented. It’s one reason why people had less diseases and health problems. Because they didn’t have all the chemicals being put into their bodies! Wake up, Kathie Lee and Hoda. Just one more (of the many reasons) reason to add to the list as to why I don’t watch mainstream media like this. *rolls eyes* It’s like my Mom always tells me, Don’t knock something unless you’ve tried it and have the experience to do so.

      I commend Jacquelyn for her choice. I wish her all the success in the world! I also commend her fellow bloggers for having her back on this and wish you all the success in the world. I will definitely be spreading this on FB.

      Good luck all!

      Amanda Higgins

    25. Lizabeth Osterholt
      January 17, 2014 at 5:31 pm

      I stopped watching those 2 snarky and mean drunks over a year ago. And I dumped the entire Today Show because that is the type of people they hire. The kind of people they are. I replaced them and am all the happier for it. I wish I could believe that they will ever understand that their not relevant any longer when they behave so vilely. I simply pray to God that one day they will see that they are part of the problem with today’s society. Disrespectful and cruel treatment of others is just not acceptable. But they don’t see it as disrespectful they think they are funny. Truth is they are not. They are just pitiful. Irrelevant and cruel is never funny. It is just wrong.

    26. January 17, 2014 at 6:38 pm

      Absolutely perfect rebuttal, now, if only she would take her nose out of the air and take the time to read it AND ABSORB it…

    27. Denise
      January 17, 2014 at 7:02 pm

      Thank you for writing this reply. It pretty clearly states what many of us are thinking after hearing of or watching Kathy Lee’s showing bashing crunchymama. I would like, however, to make a stronger point about the fact that they are bullying on national television…where do kids learn to bully?! From what they see on TV, their parents (i.e. Kathy Lee, she’s a parent), and their friends (who learn from their parents and TV). We have a huge problem with bullying in this nation and world and for Kathy Lee to participate in it and promote it on national TV is not only NOT okay, it is downright dreadful…it’s teaching our kids to do what we are saying they should NOT do. You kind of pointed that out, but I don’t feel it was pointed out strongly enough. I have some distractions here now and probably didn’t do a great job of it myself, but I’m sure you get the point. I understand she bashed your friend and you are defending your friend, but I feel the bigger point here is that she shouldn’t be bashing anybody for anything…at least anything that isn’t illegal or immoral (like child pornography, child sex trade, etc.) and particularly not on national TV!

    28. January 17, 2014 at 7:19 pm

      Love this! And I agree 100%! We wonder what’s wrong with people in the world today and this is exactly where it starts.

    29. Connie Bassett
      January 17, 2014 at 8:37 pm

      omg … i started from the beginning. *gag* do they PAY the audience?

    30. Sherri Vogler
      January 17, 2014 at 9:07 pm

      I am such a supporter of everything you said. My awesome youngest daughter has been the no poo route for 2 years now and she did not even have the adjustment period. Her hair is waist length and amazing. The hair stylist LOVES her hair and people that see her wish for her hair. My home is our refuge and place where we use natural cleaners we make from vinegar, baking soda, lemon juice, and borax. I choose not to use chemicals for the health of my kids. Yes, i am a home school mom also and proud of it!!!!!

    31. Elaine
      January 17, 2014 at 9:26 pm

      Awesome. Definetly sharing!! You go girls!

    32. Stacie Waiwaiole
      January 17, 2014 at 10:01 pm

      BRAVO!!!!!

    33. Amanda
      January 17, 2014 at 10:09 pm

      Kathie lee and Hoda were not bullying anyone! They are saying their honest opinions and being themselves. We cant all walk on eggshells all the time.

      • January 17, 2014 at 10:14 pm

        So calling someone disgusting is an opinion? I think not.

      • January 18, 2014 at 8:54 am

        Making fun of someone is not an opinion..How can it be an opinion with knowing both sides of the story. When you are on television and speaking to the masses and being paid for it then YES it is your obligation to do some research before you open your mouth. This letter was NOT harsh enough!!

    34. Shelley
      January 17, 2014 at 10:49 pm

      Funny, I didn’t think the letter was too harsh at all. I used much harsher words within my own circle of friends. And I shall now be following Little Crunchy Owl Momma. :)

    35. January 17, 2014 at 11:53 pm

      I haven’t used “shampoo” in years. Not just because I chose to go natural, but because I can’t. I can’t stand the fragrances that are in hair care products. They make me sick. See, I have Multiple Chemical Sensitivity. Exposure to chemical fragrances like what is put in shampoo, deodorant, perfume, lotion etc. actually make my brain swell. People die from MCS, their poor bodies are just not able to take any more pollution. This no joke. So when I heard that H and KL were making fun of this very brave woman it made me very angry and very sad. These two women have no idea what it is like, so I am very grateful that you defended all of us that chose to or have to go “no poo.” Your words were very well written. Thank you!
      God bless you and yours
      Hears The Water

    36. Traci
      January 18, 2014 at 2:51 am

      I have not read all the replies, but kudos to you!

      I have a family of 7, that makes the masses cringe. When I explain that 5 are adopted, I have just become a saint :/

      Let me tell you, integrating these children, mostly 5 to 7, and RETEACHING the things the masses taught them, UGH! Add into this some of our first adopted children are special needs and THAT itself was interesting to help give my latter adopted children the understanding that WE ALL NEED to play nice and the world is much better.

      AGAIN! KUDOS!

    37. Meg
      January 18, 2014 at 6:24 am

      A ton of people use the no ‘poo system of hair washing. Kathie Lee should have done some research on what she was talking about. There are many of us out there trying to eliminate chemicals from our homes and bodies. Thanks for taking a stand.

    38. January 18, 2014 at 6:58 am

      I just went to the video footage to see what Kathie Lee said. Wow what a freakin B*tch!!! I the response from Leslie is totally spot on. Very well written and what all of us want them to know. How dare they!

    39. Deborah
      January 18, 2014 at 9:19 am

      Simply Amen. Too many speak of things they are ignorant about. Media people speak too often when they should keep their mouths shut. Everyone has an opinion, yes that is true but they CAN’T speak authoritatively on something unless they themselves have first hand experience.

    40. January 18, 2014 at 9:40 am

      I haven’t washed my hair with chemical shampoos for almost 10 years, and I’m always asked about my hair! Those of us that are awake and aware are moving away from “products” and into methods that are healthier and a whole lot saner! I also only wash my hair every 10-14 days, but I also live in a clean farm away from city smog. I use to have oily hair, but once it got through the test of time and rebalanced, it’s now fabulous, and I won’t go back for anything!! Keep up your good work! Let the bullies lie in their own poo….

    41. January 18, 2014 at 10:18 am

      Love this letter! I haven’t used shampoo in YEARS [close to a decade] and it’s the best decision I ever made. If someone has a smell it’s because of what they’re eating and putting on their body. My rule of thumb is not to put anything on my body that I wouldn’t put in my mouth and eat. I dare Kathi Lee to eat her beauty products! I would even go to a friends to watch that on TV.

    42. Mariam
      January 18, 2014 at 10:33 am

      Beautifully written!
      I bet it felt good to post it, especially when you are sooooo right!

    43. Teresa
      January 18, 2014 at 11:12 am

      To each their own…. stop pushing your lifestyle Kathy Lee and accept the fact that others have one too!!!!!

    44. wolfshawn2
      January 18, 2014 at 3:36 pm

      don’t let 2 overpaid alcoholics ruin your day. I believe in living a chemical free life also. I don’t believe make up, shampoo, or any of the chemical laden products that the propaganda leads the sheeple to believe are “good” for you makes a person beautiful. Hooda and Kathy lee need to seriously take a look at how they “sell out” in order to gain a paycheck. They will suffer their fates in time with the shame of their actions. Karma is a B!&$#.

    45. Julie
      January 18, 2014 at 4:00 pm

      On the one hand you are chastising them for bullying, and then you use phrases like, ” Kathie Lee’s cringe-worthy lyric-forgetting and the best hair evah (EVAH) popular girls circle jerk.”. Well, that is not a very nice thing to say. You say you are against bullying, yet you say mean things like that. Is it only bullying when other people do it? You would have been more convincing if you left lines like that out. I have a feeling that you do more than roll your eyes at people who don’t behave like you. Why do you get to corner the righteousness market?

      • January 18, 2014 at 5:33 pm

        Real nice:/ I suggest you read the entire article and ALL the comments.

        • Kelly
          January 23, 2014 at 8:21 am

          I have read the entire article and the comments. So I will address this reply to both you and Leslie. I came over to this website out of a genuine interest in learning more about the natural food ideas and/or a shampoo free life. I didn’t get very far into your site though, because I stumbled upon this letter first. I have to say, I was also turned off by the tone of Leslie’s letter and response. It just wasn’t very nice.

          I read all kinds of blogs and may have returned to this website for more reading if I hadn’t read Leslie’s letter (which you posted, so I’m going to assume that you find some value in it). You may not care that you lost a potential reader or potential follower, but just to let you know. There’s probably more people who feel like me but didn’t take the time to write a comment.

          • January 24, 2014 at 7:58 pm

            You are entitled to your opinion, Kelly as are we all. I bet if it was you getting insulted on national television you might feel differently. Yes, I value my readers but I appreciate people who stick up for others more.

    46. January 18, 2014 at 5:17 pm

      Wash the hair with baking soda and vinegar and daily drink 1 tbsp. vinegar and 1 tbsp.honey in a glass of water. You’ll be amazed how the system gets back in balance.
      Thank you for this post! It’s too bad people can be such sheep and easily led by the industry. Slick advertising and consumer psychology are hard to get around. Yeah for those who can see past it all.

    47. andi
      January 18, 2014 at 6:01 pm

      May I? I have to admit, I was a little wary about washing with oil and about using an all natural, can eat it out of the jar, body scrub. However, I made them. I use them I am wary about using the no ‘poo alternative on my hair because it is so easily damaged, but I do all the others! I use nothing but what I call “Body Food” (TM pending) on my skin, and I have never had a more brilliant complexion, nor have I had softer skin~ even on my feet! It takes a little more time and costs less! I would recommend nothing else!!

    48. January 19, 2014 at 3:55 pm

      Thanks for re-posting this–I know Jacqueline and have been very upset by this whole situation. How could Kathie Lee and Hoda think for a second that doing what they did was ok? Every time someone shares this story, 100+ more people are (hopefully) being educated on so many things from the dangers of chemicals to the the (lack of) ethics displayed on this disappointing TODAY show segment.

      I’m sure if Kathie and Hoda didn’t wash their hair for a week, it would certainly smell pungent from the sulfates in all that wine, not to mention all the other synthetic products they probably put on their bodies! They just don’t really get the entire concept of going “no-poo” and shouldn’t have been talking about something they don’t understand. It’s part of a lifestyle change that involves taking care of your body from the ground up!

      • January 19, 2014 at 5:43 pm

        It’s my pleasure! I was bullied in high school and made fun of for stupid things like that I wore a sports-bra to school instead of a “real bra”. Seriously?!?! I don’t like “mean girls” and I will ALWAYS stand up for those being ridiculed AND put those ridiculing in their place. Period! I’m proud of how Jacquelyn is handling all of this with her head held high!

    49. January 19, 2014 at 7:07 pm

      I think we’re caught up semantics…shampooing with a commercial product vs. the same act of grooming with a noncommercial ingredient. The response did seem to wander.

    50. Lynne
      January 20, 2014 at 12:28 pm

      Well done. WELL DONE! Has this been sent in to the show??

      • January 20, 2014 at 2:20 pm

        Hi Lynne, Yes. I believe some fans of the article posted it on the Today Show page.

    51. Emily
      January 21, 2014 at 6:13 pm

      Nice of you to write in support of your friend. I really about her and I think I may brave up and try it. However, I noticed that you said bullying is not okay and proceeded to use bullying words yourself. Just pointing it out because I think you make a good point and are undermining your point by choosing your words unkindly.

      • January 21, 2014 at 7:26 pm

        Thank you for your comment, Emily. There’s a huge difference between strong language in reprimanding someone and bullying. I suggest you read all of the comments as we’ve talked about this at length:)

    52. naturalchow
      January 21, 2014 at 8:08 pm

      Gee, I just heard about all this and was pretty confused at first. And then I figured out that someone was being bullied. And I was all “Girl, you best back up!” (sorry) This completely enraged me. I don’t use shampoo at all. None. Occasionally, I’ll wash my hair with a little baking soda and vinegar, but otherwise, it’s all-natural for me. I was bullied in middle school all the time, so I know how much bullying hurts. And the fact is, it doesn’t matter if you’re being bullied by 100 people or by two people. It still hurts.

      On a more positive note, I found this post very informational and I appreciate you taking the time to share this. I sincerely love your website and hope to one day be as successful as you. You’ve done a great job. Keep up the great work.

      • January 21, 2014 at 9:33 pm

        Thank you for your comment, Ellie! I know all too well what it feels like to be bullied and it’s something very difficult to get past!!

    53. Amy
      February 7, 2014 at 6:10 pm

      I think this is great that you are speaking out in regards to your friend Jacquelyn. I came across Jacquelyn’s interview with Huff Post about not washing her hair and decided to check out her blog. I am always trying to find natural alternatives to things and was very intrigued by her “no poo” decision. I personally think she is making a great choice and can’t wait to start not using shampoo! I am equally as disgusted with the response of Katie Lee and Hoda. How sad that they are able to talk in such a way on television! Jacquelyn’s understanding of true beauty is too far beyond them to comprehend. They are brainwashed into thinking that how they look and the products they use are the best. Just because you spend hundreds of dollars on products and trying to make yourself look good doesn’t make you a more beautiful woman! TEAM JACQUELYN and NO POO!!!

    54. February 10, 2014 at 1:47 am

      I think it is a great idea, ,i have been up all night reading articles on how to repair hair and on on expensive shampoos that strip your hair,Admittedly i do use shampoo,when i do not wash it all week in shampoo it does seem to appear thicker and not in dirt.In some countries some people can not afford these products yet have thick great looking hair&may i add that Kathie’s hair does look thicker!

    55. Sara
      March 8, 2014 at 12:24 pm

      I read through all of these comments before watching the video clip, and was expecting Hoda and Kathie Lee to be vicious to warrant the extremely harsh tone of Leslie’s letter and the equaling harsh tone of many other commenters’ words. I must say, although the pair certainly weren’t accepting of the no shampoo choice, they were not even close to being as accusatory as most people here appear to be. Pointing out the smell factor, is a valid point. I and many others I know, have encountered people who smell badly, and not said anything because we don’t want to be rude. I work with a man who is nice, a good parent, has many other favourable traits, and looks ‘clean’ and who happens to smell terribly. Multiple people have cringed at the smell, and not said anything, because there is hardly a nice way to tell a person that they smell awful. Simply not being told that you smell badly, don’t mean that you don’t. To think that a person is mean and stupid for wondering what else you don’t wash, if you don’t wash your hair, is ridiculous. Why is your body able to naturally make some parts of your body that smell horribly when not washed regularly, not smell horribly if you simply stop washing altogether and not other parts of the body? Why does nature make your hair stop smelling and looking greasy if you don’t use soap of any kind, but not your arm pits, groin area, or feet? I agree that many people wash more than they need to or should, and use harsher products than they need to or should, that doesn’t mean I am a bad person for thinking that never washing sounds dirty and smelly. Walk into a hockey change room to see what smell huge amounts of sweat produce. I assure it is horrendous! If people get the recommended amount of physical activity each day, they will sweat. Playing sports, makes you sweat. Running makes you sweat. Doing much of anything in a humid climate on a hot summer day makes you sweat. Knowing all of that, and wondering how the body can make parts of itself not smell with just water, but not other parts, doesn’t sound logical. I appreciate that everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but to attack people who want to know they are not turning people’s stomachs with any potential foul smells coming off of their bodies, are not shallow, unintelligent and uninformed people. I know that cardiovascular activity is very important for maintaining optimal health, and that sweating will result from it. I know that sweat on it’s own doesn’t smell, but smells when mixed with bacteria. Based on sanitation laws regarding food industry standards, and health care facilities and workers standards, rinsing doesn’t come close to removing enough bacteria to be suitable, which means means water can only ‘clean’ so much on it’s own.

    56. Jen R
      April 23, 2014 at 7:10 am

      Wow, terrific words! Wish Kathie Lee and Hoda were real enough to read them on the show and do a follow-up… but then, I wish Kathie Lee and Hoda did anything but talk about stuff that isn’t important in the slightest.

    57. Greg P
      May 28, 2014 at 12:05 am

      What a well articulated response in defense of a brave woman who has the intelligence to understand the culture and society we now live in. Thank you for empowering the readers of this blog, if only you had half the audience these deplorable women have the world would be much better for it. The worst part of that video is the attempt to classify that broadcast as news.

    58. Ali
      August 5, 2014 at 5:45 pm

      Do you use water? How about using natural products? I don’t think they were bullying her – I think they don’t understand and just don’t like it. It is their opinions and they are entitled to it. I say – don’t watch them if you don’t like what they have to say. Honestly, I could care less about them or what any celebrity says or thinks. They aren’t in my life or yours. Don’t spend so much time on them. Just my thoughts.

    59. January 17, 2014 at 1:12 pm

      Thank you for your reply, Amber! I am going over to check out your post! Thanks for sharing!

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